Tuesday, November 27, 2007

look, if you will

Interesting chat I had with a friend. (Don't bludgeon me when you read this!)

Subjectivity versus objectivity. This topic, is like opening up a can of worms, but one might find gold at the bottom.

We see what we want to see, we allow ourselves to think what we want to think. After all, ignorance is bliss right?
WRONG! (In my opinion that is)
Can we continue to live in a fantasy world, where events are juts a figment of the mind, merely to cover up unpleasantness?

There's always two sides to the coin.

Followed with a response of, "we are perceptive creatures, we only see the side we want to."

If we only see the side we want to, does that mean there IS only one side?
Can we truly live without knowing what goes on around us? If we can, then will it still be bliss? Living in a war torn country and choose to believe that the sounds outside the house, is just the sound of a pot crashing to the ground, hit by a cat.

To live like that, to me, it's like living in an illusion. Then, we live in a dream, not reality.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

was it jiang mun? was is jiang mun? she always....ALWAYS....gets into the "there are two sides to the coin"...

-jiang mun's friend...forgot my name-

lishun said...

ref: the world is flat. if no one dared to "sail off the edge" or even bothered to consider the possibility of something beyond the edge...we'd still think it's flat.

you want a pop culture reference? sixth sense. the "ghosts" only see what they want to. but does that mean the world they see is the real one? as bruce willis found out, it wasn't so. and it hurt him so much more when he was forced to see the real picture simply because he could originally only see what he wanted to.

Anonymous said...

I think that everything is objective. Cats are cats and Dogs are dogs. How we look at everything however is subjective simply because we are human. We're designed to interpret things. That's all there is to it.

peasantboy said...

yes. we are designed to interpret things. BUT we have to remember, there's more to just what we interpret

Jonathan said...

imho, subjectivity can only truly hundred-percent live alongside objectivity without ever coming into conflict if there are no factors intertwining the two.

since that can never be, my conclusion is, in our world, subjectivity is a poor cousin to objectivity, the harsh truth overriding the momentary bliss of not caring beyond what we know.

Eg, we can believe all we want that smoking is great, and that will keep us happily puffing away, until the day where our lungs give up the ghost.

So short term subjectivity is what some people choose to cling on to (myself included sometimes) but objectivity will ultimately rear its head and make itself known in some form before the end.

JWo said...

2 Timothy 4:3-4. I think this world will always side with subjectivity and all the more as we continue in time. The trick is to address the subjective thinkers with grace to bring on the objectivity. Address the felt needs and lead them to the real needs.